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Old 9th August 2004, 12:17 PM
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Default Fishery or abomination?

Until about the 1960's or 70's no-one bothered much about whaling - it was considered a legitimate fishery along with others that had continued for thosands of years.

Are we being railroaded by the environmentalists into a single way of thinking? What about countries like Japan where whale meat and blubber has always been a vital food stuff because there's relatively little farm land?

Or are whales just too special to consider killing? - in the way that many people in India consider cattle are - should we stop killing cattle then beacuse they're right and we're wrong? Isn't that what we're saying to the Japanese?

Then again whales are difficult to kill outright and some say they cannot be humanely killed outright and that they always suffer.

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Old 22nd July 2005, 03:50 AM
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New here, hi all..

Whaling has no purpose now days and only applys to people who seek profit in a disgusting manner.

Poachers should be poached. Opps did i say that.

Sorry i'm a whale lover just got back from an excellent site seeing adventure...
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Old 17th November 2005, 04:29 AM
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A Japanese whaling fleet (the biggest in a decade) has left port and is heading for Antarctic waters to catch 810 Minke whales and 10 Fin whales. Officially the whales are caught for research purposes, however many have called this a cover up as the meat is sold to supermarkets and restaurants after the researchers have completed their task.

why the heck is this legal?
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Old 23rd November 2005, 12:10 AM
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i believe the reason whaling is now considered so "evil" is the same reason that killing buffalo for food and skin in america also now wrong---the hunt to extinction. both animals were once considered a valuable source of food and other products such as their skins for many indigenous peoples, but when it becomes more about the money you can make off of these animals, that's when they become hunted to extinct. Japan is a world power today and they have no need for using whales to sustain their lives or economy. now the comment about India and cattle is more of a religious conviction for them. they believe in reincarnation and that ancestors could have been brought back in the form of cattle or other animals. many of these people are vegetarian, but it's about their religious beliefs--not about how beautiful or mystifying they might find that animal to be unlike many whale lovers..... :wink:
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Old 23rd November 2005, 02:39 AM
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indeed. but there ancestors sure are tasty!! i believe vegans hold a form of superiority over non vegans. my personal belief is that if you can't maintain a vegan diet then you should have to raise your own life stock and proceed with the process yourself or hunt if you don't have the land.(like this would ever happen, due to the simplicity of the market place.) sea life is different of course in which should be monitored very closely not to over fish. killing whales is torture for them.......it is by no means a fast process.
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Old 23rd November 2005, 06:40 AM
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AHHHH! A VEGAN! :twisted: just kidding. i find many vegans seem to have a superiority complex, like an ex-friend of mine who thought she was better that me because i was a mere vegetarian--however this elitist vegan also ate out of the trash and some of that trash was meat! but since she didn't pay for the meat, she thought it was okay..... :razz:
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Old 23rd November 2005, 04:16 PM
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ewwwww yuk. gross
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Old 27th November 2005, 08:27 PM
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http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-38196,00.html

they should harvest there own whales then, set up big breeding pins in there own country where they could kill them, of course after they were done showing there childeren how cute and unique and endangered they are they could get out there huge harpoons and slam it into there huge heads and bodies and watch as they flop around squirting out gallons of blood!!! i declare open harpoon season on japanese whaling fleets. get out yer harpoons!!! lets kill us some whale eaters for scientific purposes.

http://cooltech.iafrica.com/science/597144.htm
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Old 24th December 2005, 05:36 AM
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Paul, until the last century no one bothered too much about the enslavement and/or extermination of a race of people. For example, the Aboriginals of Australia or the Indians of North America. It was considered a legitimate practice to wipe these people off the face of the Earth in the name of 'civilisation.' Indeed, this practice was considered legitimate on an international level for thousands of years. The fact that it was acceptable behaviour for so long is no justification. Similarly, the abuse of the sentient creatures of the sea is also unjustifiable.
No one is railroading you into a single way of thinking. You can think for yourself.
Once there were many humans who considered human flesh vital to their existence. In todays world it is not neccesary to inflict unneccesary suffering on humans or whales for food.
Paul, if you have spent time in the amazing natural beauty of this planet and you are unsure of whales being special then you are not in good health.
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Old 24th December 2005, 06:16 AM
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i don't believe pauls objective was to take a side rather to create talk about an issue for a resolve. however here are a couple speed bumps on the way to a resolution. it seems to me green peace gots yeller belly's

http://www.seashepherd.org/news/media_051223_1.html
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