Greenpeace to Abandon Whales in Antartica

[Pirates Armada]

this might be a silly question but how does the average person make a living and join a conservation society like the sscs (much needed) or green peace? these are basiclly a donate your time type of orginizations....am i correct?

[Trevor]

For my self I worked many years as a volanteer. As time went on I recieved my engineering papers and now work as a freelance engineer and am also hired by SSCS in the only paid capacity as Chief Engineer on board when needed. All other crew donate there time but it is a requirement for the ship to have a quaified engineer on board. So this is how it's done. As for GP all postions are paid positions.
Trevor

[Pirates Armada]

my tiny little grass root idea would start small and then take the world over at a blistering slow pace. all positions paid!! handsomely!! it's currently in top secret mode, area 51 style in my brain.

[Trevor]

Freedom In America? / Rome?

Two exceptionally mortal blows were stuck against freedom of speech this last week.



The first blow was struck when an Austrian court sentenced British historian David Irving to three years in prison for denying the holocaust in a speech he delivered seventeen years ago.



The second blow was struck with the indictment of Animal Rights activist Rod Coronado for a speech he gave in 2003. Mr. Coronado is facing twenty years in prison.



David Irving did indeed deny the holocaust and his ludicrous assertions that ignore historical evidence to the contrary make him a very incompetent and contemptible historian indeed. He is not a very admirable human being and can legitimately be described as a racist. However he did not injure anyone. He certainly did not kill anyone. He did not damage or steal anyone's property. All he did was voice an opinion.



And for that he has been sentenced to three years in a prison!



Rod Coronado was indeed convicted of a felony crime for his animal rights activism and he served five years in a U.S. Federal prison for his crime. He was indicted this week for giving a speech in 2003 about the activities that led to his arrest and imprisonment.



Coronado was arrested near his home in Tucson, and after arraignment is expected to be transferred to San Diego, California for trial. Last year, 3 activists were jailed for refusing to cooperate with the grand jury that indicted Coronado. Danae Kelley, who was imprisoned for 2 months, said on her release in October "In the world of secret grand juries, nothing is known, targets aren't confirmed, and indictments haunt everyone. Grand juries are like riding a roller coaster blindfolded--anything goes. They have become a serious threat to our constitutional rights, and I encourage every citizen who receives a subpoena to resist and every other to voice support."



This may be easier said than done. Last month dozens of animal right activists were arrested and indicted on charges stemming from information received from informers, most of whom were threatened into giving up names in return for escaping charges themselves.



"It is like the McCarthy witch hunts have been revived with a vengeance," said Erin Jameson, an activist from Eugene, Oregon.



In Europe where cartoons depicting the face of the prophet Mohammed have been condemned, newspapers have been censured and free speech is under open attack by extremists. Cartoons of the holocaust and openly anti-Semitic editorials and cartoons are common in the Muslim world, published, read and approved of by the same people who are screaming racism and intolerance in reaction to the cartoons depicting the prophet Mohammed. In Iran, imprisonment is the sentence for those who deny the existence of god and there are many in America who would like to see the same treatment given to atheists and pagans.



These are dangerous times when imprisonment is the punishment for voicing an opinion.



What is even more frightening is that the Western media seems shell-shocked and reluctant to question these arrests or even the ridiculous hysteria of the anti-cartoon crowd.



We may not agree with David Irving. We may not agree with Rodney Coronado but we should be defending their right to speak, to think, to voice their opinions in a free and tolerant society. Tolerance means tolerance for all views, not just our own and not just the safe, warm and fuzzy kind.



The Freedom of speech is the foundation of all other freedoms. If this one freedom crumbles so will the entire edifice of freedom. At the moment the foundation is being hammered with rock shattering blows and Irving and Coronado are two expendable chips. But the chips are building up and the structure is becoming weaker. When the structure collapses that will be the day that democracy, freedom, and liberty expire in Western civilization and we will enter a new dark age where intolerance, tyranny and dictatorship will reign supreme.



The United States Constitution is the most powerful enshrinement of the rights of humanity ever made into law. It holds that the right to speak and the right of free expression must be respected even when the message is not. It holds that we must be tolerant of all opinions, philosophies and beliefs. It does not require respect, support or credence given to these beliefs, opinions and philosophies. The freedom to speak must be all inclusive and must protect the Christian, the Muslim, the Jew, the Atheist, the Scientologist, and those who believe the world is as flat as a pancake.



What happened to Mr. Irving and Mr. Coronado this week is a full frontal assault on the bastion of free speech and the lack of criticism, the lack of controversy in response to the sentencing of Irving and the indictment of Coronado will only encourage more assaults and more hammer blows to freedom.



A Lutheran pastor and survivor of a Nazi concentration camp once said: "First they came and took away the communists and I did nothing because I wasn't a communist. Then they took away the Jews and I did nothing because I wasn't Jewish. Then they took away the unionists and again I did nothing because I wasn't in a union. And then, when they came for me, there was no one there to stop it."



We can say that this week they sentenced the holocaust revisionist for voicing his opinion, then they indicted the animal rights activist for speaking about his experiences and we did nothing. When they come for us for questioning God, the government, the corporations, or the war, who will be there to defend us? When they jail us for having an opinion that is not in rigid conformity to the government or religion will they silence us?



Irving’s sentence and Coronado’s indictment are the foot in the door for the jackboot of intolerance and an encouragement to those who would trample our freedoms.



The question is, will we stand our ground or will we surrender our freedom in return for false promises of security?





Paul Watson is the founder of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and the co-founder of the Greenpeace Foundation. He is an author, writer and lecturer and a resident of Friday Harbor, Washington.

[Pirates Armada]

thank you Trevor,

click the link to see democracy and freedom of speech in action. iraqi's must be tickled pink given they're at critical meltdown via a civil war and terrorists.
i got one solution for <ALL>, drop the differences the only color we should think is green.

http://kevxml2adsl.verizon.net/_1_2I...op=1&ran=30106


personally i look down on inmature people who would draw cartoons, images or what have you about anyone's race or religion, non religion... whatever country your from. that just spells trouble.....live like a quest for fire and well....

[Trevor]

Cheers to that!!!
My Wife is from Iran and also agrees that all people should check there religion at the door befor wondering into the world of many views! The war of Faiths is one that can not be won with guns, only education can save people now! The final battle will obviously be with our habitat, since we have not been paying any attention or respect to it in the last few hundred years it's bound to catch up ro us sooner than later!
Trevor

[Pirates Armada]

no cheers to you!!!

anyhow i hope japan can learn without force to except worldly creatures like the whale. after all like i have said before it's not like a cow where you can heard em up stick 50 or so of their heads in a dirrect line for the path of a skill saw to come along and slit all 50 of their throats in 10 seconds like a convaiter belt while they bleed to death. i would like to make it clear to them that i infact have seen the light...i am jump starting a new animal treaty with them personally. i have a new member of my family (avatar) who is a sacred animal in their traditions. i promise to them that if they will stop killing whales that i will in fact not eat the animal in my avatar. deal?

[St Giles]

hey trevor, glad to hear you are still active with paul. Next time you are in the UK we have to out for a pint or two.

[Pirates Armada]

maybe they could breed moose?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060311/.../island_wolves

[Trevor]

Hey St.Giles,
I emailed you in your cool antartica account but still have no reply. Would like to here from you.
Trevor