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Originally Posted by grrr
"this is undisputed (amongst those that matter)"?
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The "(those that matter)" phrase was unfortunate as it effectively alienates the very people who should be listening.
It is pretty much heading towards being undisputed though amongst pretty much everyone, after the recent IPCC conference:
http://environment.guardian.co.uk/cl...004747,00.html
Those who are still denying man-made global warming are increasingly being seen as just plain deluded and not the interesting fiery mavericks they'd like to be seen as. Sort of 21st century flat-earthers.
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Originally Posted by grrr
however that does not stop governments and agencies jumping on the band wagon at any opportunity to find financial gain in it.
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I keep seeing this sort of thing all over the place. There is far more and far easier financial gains to be made by keeping the current fast-and-dirty approach to global warming i.e. denial, than by accepting it is real and doing something about it.
This is why the US has dragged its feet for so long, for many years going the denial route, because profits will be damaged in the short term at least and by putting off the inevitable allows more short-term profit to be made.
I've not actually seen any rational and reasoned explanation of how getting a "false" acceptance of global warming can readily make anyone (or any government) extra money, above and beyond what would happen if we ignored global warming as a man-made phenomena - anyone care to enlighten me?