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  • #16
    Re: Fishery or abomination?

    Actually, I am not at all for killing the whales period. Though, if it was totally out of question I would in fairness comprimise a 50% reduction with limitations and enforced regulations as to who, when, where, how and why for the killing of whales/for what purposes. Also, The Rights of Whales would be put in place. Just some different ideas.

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    • #17
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      good idea, they do have some rights currently but they are not being followed. so i guess their rights are not good enough. i am not for the killing of whales. the whalers say they need whales for science. but come on over 1000????? i think they are just trying to piss everyone off. they also do not care what size the whale is. which to me adds to the stupidity of their objective. completely irresponsible of a country to allow this. just like everything else it's big buisiness and the whalers who chase their money. atleast they could get a clue and whale in there own waters.
      Last edited by Pirates Armada; 20th January 2006, 10:03.

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by Pirates Armada
        i think they are just trying to piss everyone off.
        I think it's commerce that drives this. Here's a link from 4 years ago:

        http://www.eurocbc.org/page531.html

        Whalemeat was the current day equivalent of $24.20 a kilo (2.2 pounds) then.

        A whale can be worth 100's of thousands of $$$ when presented on a plate in Tokyo.

        This is nothing to do with tradition or research - that's the excuse. This is a commercial fishery.

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by Pirates Armada
          point taken but it's 2006 not 1830 they don't need em. the only time i would ever allow the death of a "large whale" was if there were to many of them. i think keeping them at some magical number is illogical. never kill a small whale it's wastefull.
          Killing any whale is wasteful and barbaric.
          They are beautiful, wonderful creatures. No matter what the size or breed, they should always be protected.

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          • #20
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            http://www.seashepherd.org/sscs_news...CS_article.pdf

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            • #21
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              I do not agree with it. I think it's evil, barbaric, selfish and murderous. Sorry but that's just my own opinion. I don't know alot about Whaling, but I love the Big Blue Whale, which makes me a lover of all Whales and Mammals. Maybe I'll go and kill some Japs dog and if they have a problem with it, I'll just tell them I'm upening up a Doggery stall selling Dog Meat for a living. Needs must.

              GRR ! :mad:

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              • #22
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                WOAH! Maria!!

                Dog meat?? I don't know about Japan but maybe in another part of the world you may become very rich selling dog meat!

                I was reading the earlier replies and now I'm officially confused (doens't take much to achieve that for me!) What is the difference between a "vegan" and "vegetarian"?? Sorry but I eat meat and I refuse to be ashamed of it and I'm not familiar with the vege lingo...so, would someone nicely explain and don't hold my disgusting culinary tastes against me??

                psr

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                • #23
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                  Well, I was speaking hyperthetically of course I love Dogs, too !

                  And in answer to your Vegan / Veg question, I have no idea. I love meat, but I'm slowly refraining mysef from eating it. I don't eat Sausages anymore, I don't eat Beef, and I'm trying to stop eating Bacon, Ham and the rest of it ! Although I don't think anything bad or bitchy about anyone who eats meat, I've eaten it all my life, but almost seeing Pigs being slaughtered on TV (before I switched it over), I've kind of 'thunk' (if that's even a word) twice about meat altogether.

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                  • #24
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                    Maria,
                    I tried becoming a vegetarian way back in my high school days (that was around about the time the wheel was invented) but I couldn't do it.
                    I do have a lot of respect for people who can do it and good on 'em!

                    I will eat meat as long it hasn't been a pet.....we have a farm you see! Besides, how do we know that the vegetables don't hurt when we pluck, pick and cut them?? I have heard of a research study that was done where they showed that plants shied away from you when you went to pick them! So I guess that means we should all become oxygenatarians??

                    psr

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by psr
                      Maria,
                      Besides, how do we know that the vegetables don't hurt when we pluck, pick and cut them??
                      I think that sometimes, too.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by psr
                        What is the difference between a "vegan" and "vegetarian"??
                        Vegetarians will also eat dairy produce - from animals, but without the animal being killed. I've even met some vegetarians who eat fish (wild-not reared for the table) but they seem like strange vegetables to me.

                        Vegans are stricter and don't eat or use any animal products at all - often not even wearing leather shoes.

                        I have to say anyone I've ever known who is a vegan has always looked decidely pallid and ill to me. Lack of iron in the diet is a particular problem - especially in females. I've suggested (obliquely) a number of times in my teaching career that young girls in my classes who I know are vegetarian or vegan and looking a bit "peaky" aught to take some vitamin and mineral tablets too.

                        Humans are designed to be omnivores.

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                        • #27
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                          Paul,

                          I totally agree.....I also had a friend at school was a fish-eating vegetarian so I could never figure out how it worked!

                          I don't judge because I also have a restricted diet...to a certain extent so I understand the fact that others have a choice that can make too.

                          psr

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                          • #28
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                            No matter how hungry i was i would never ever eat whale meat it would be like eating a member of my family i would rather chew grass.times are a changing we need to change to that includes japan and iceland who is iceland selling the whale meat to japan no one else wants it iwc are useless there is only sea shepherd that that can protect them and get results action speaks louder than words.

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                            • #29
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                              Jani,

                              I totally agree with you. I think that we have come to a point as humnas where we can find other means of sustenance. The Japanese are a very technologically advanced race. You'd think that they would have the brains to think of something else to eat other than whales!! Which part of "they are endangered" don't they understand?? And that goes for all those other A@#$#$#@ that keep hunting these defenseless creatures! Animals and children are my one weakness because their lives are in the hands of others and they don't have choices, or rather, they are not allowed to make choices!!

                              psr

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                              • #30
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                                all i know is fasion is BIG over there.....ever see how freely they dress. i mean i could be in a harpooned whale costume and they wouldn't notice? some crazy getty ups over there. freedom of culture is a good thing but is there a limit on what freedoms we should have, if everything goes then its beyond thunderdome for me, i'm straight up putting my kurt rambis jersey on and getting freaky.

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